Life In Federal Prison

I filmed a video recently about life in federal prison. You can watch it here. For those that have interest in the text of the video please see below. I had the video transcribed. I talk differently than I write, but I am confident my readers will not have a problem following along.

“Oliver Wendell Holmes said “there are 3 types of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch what’s happening, and those who haven’t the slightest idea what’s happening.” I’m writing this blog for those who are going to serve time in federal prison and who want to make things happen. I’ll touch on a number of things in this blog, from visitation, to the chow hall, to jobs and staff but by no means is it an exhaustive list—I’d be writing and talking about this for days.

To learn more about life in federal prison, including jobs in prison, education in prison, people you meet in prison and more grab a copy of my book Lessons From Prison for free. You can also grab my lesson plan on mastering the first day in prison here.

Life In Federal Prison- Inside Federal Prison

For now, I’m going to transition into life inside a federal prison from my perspective, but I’ll also weave in some of what I’ve learned from working with hundreds of white collar defendants since my release from federal prison.

I want to weave in some of their stories and those with whom I did not work because there is too much information online that is anecdotal; in other words it’s one person’s experience, and it might be true but people take it as if it’s fact. They’ll read it and presume that’s going to be for their experience. Or they’ll read that prison is boring and they presume that it’s going to be boring for them. Or they’ll read that you cannot run a business in prison. That’s not true, I ran and grew a business ethically and transparently from prison. I want to open your eyes into what’s possible and also debunk many of the misperceptions that others have about life in federal prison.

Life In Federal Prison- Mornings In Federal Prison

My life in federal prison started early, about 5:00am each day.  I was either awake by 5 or the guard would be walking by and their keys would be banging on their thighs and you’d wake up. The count cleared around 5:00 and I’d have a cup of coffee, then I’d have 20 or 30 minutes to think while the rest of the dorm slept. I’d begin to collect my thoughts for the day, My day was non-negotiable. It was my routine, my structure enabling me to prepare for all the obstacles that would await me. So, I liked waking early while the dorm slept and, without getting too graphic, I also liked using the restroom in privacy. I remember my first full day in prison, at 8:00am there were 20-30 guys in line to use the restroom each holding a roll of toilet paper and I said I just don’t want to go through that again. So, waking early was best for me.

From there at about 6:30am every day I’d roll down to the chow hall. I went down to the chow nearly every breakfast while I was in prison to leverage off some of the good resources they would give you at Taft Camp. The more you could get from the chowhall the less you would have to purchase in the commissary. We only had $290 a month spending limit in the commissary (it’s now $360). So, I’d go to the chow hall at 6:30am, sometimes I’d sit with friends. Sometimes I’d sit with prisoners that I did not know but I usually kept to myself.

After I got adjusted in federal prison I wasn’t really worried about life in federal prison, bur rather what the rest of my life would look like because I went to prison. Because of that I spent my days in federal prison, in fact I know many of my clients now do the same, with ear buds in making it quite clear that I wasn’t to spoken to. It’s not disrespectful, it’s not rude. Maybe it’s a little aloof or standoffish but unless you’re that way anyway, aloof and standoffish, I don’t think I was, people are going to get like this guys in a routine he’s doing his own thing, let him be.

Life In Federal Prison- Don’t Complain

Even though I was serving a short prison term, only 18 months, I think from the beginning guys appreciated my efforts for a few reasons. I never complained. There’s nothing worse than a white collar offender who surrenders for a 3 or 4 year prison term or 18 months or a year and a day, and from that 1st day, 2nd or 3rd day, they’re immediately spending their days complaining about the prosecutor, their attorney who might have screwed them or whatever it was. Then you have a non violent drug offender serving 20 years or 10 years because of our ridiculous war on drugs. It is also a non violent crime. Then you immediately get checked when you just get to the compound and you’re complaining about your sentence. So, I was very quiet and I was grateful actually. I knew that it could have been worse. So, I stress to all of you to not complain & to recognize you’re stepping into an environment where men have lived for 2, 5 10, 15, 20 30 years. I understood that. I always understood my environment before I wanted others to understand me.

In prison, there were men … I remember this from my early weeks who were literally watching paint dry. Others would just watch TV all day until mail call came. Or if the New York Times didn’t come that day it would throw off their whole routine. They were beholden to the prison for their happiness and for their needs. I knew early on that my experience in federal prison would be miserable if I obsessed over what I could not control.

When you’re in federal prison you might not be able to control your bunk or your job or the people with whom you work. You might bot be able to control the days that you visit. There are aspects of imprisonment that are uncomfortable. I chose to focus on what I could control namely my attitude, the time that I woke & my exercise routine. That adjustment pattern empowered me on days where I was lonely, when I missed home, women, my toilet, my parents, my dog and just freedom. You have to focus on what you can control, that empowered me and I think some of the men respected me for that.

Life In Federal Prison- Exercise

I would work my way to the track every day at 8:00am. Now, there are scores of men in prison who exercise and I admire all of them. I chose to run. I ran from 8:15am, to 10:00am every single day. Probably about 10 miles each run. Some days I did the bike. Now there are a number of men doing other exercises, there’s bocce ball, there’s volleyball, there’s soccer, there’s basketball, there’s tennis. I chose to avoid many of those group activities because I feared that I’d get hurt. Medical care in prison is lacking despite what prisons might tell taxpayers. It’s very tough to get hurt and get the treatment you need and fully recover. Also, I didn’t want to be beholden to anyone else’s routine. Like I said, my routine was non-negotiable and I didn’t want to be beholden to softball practices 3 or 4 nights a week. I could run at a pace that I could control and I didn’t have to worry about getting hurt by playing soccer or basketball and I didn’t feel obligated to go to practices during the week. That was best for me. You have to decide what’s best for you.

Life In Federal Prison- Friends

I did notice on the inside that a number of men quickly succumbed to this peer pressure. It exists in society and it exists in federal prison. Succumbing to this peer pressure or feeling obligated to hang out with certain people. Feel obligating to join an exercise group or educational programs because someone might have helped you upon your surrender. I didn’t want any of that and I made quite clear when asked that I appreciated the opportunity … I remember foolihsly mentioning that I played baseball at USC. I was by no means a star at USC but by hearing that I played baseball at USC, every day for like a month these guys pressured me into playing softball until I finally got to a point where I’m like, “dude I’m sorry I’m not going to play softball. I’m not going to be a professional softball player when I come home. I got a lot of stuff to work on. I’m sorry.”

The guy was like “dude, relax. Take it easy. You’re going crazy here. You’re running too fast. You’re going to get hurt. Chill a little bit. Slow down until you get closer to the house,” which is prison parlance for relax until you get closer to the halfway house. That’s part of the reason I had so few friends. I didn’t want to have to defend my routine.

I had a couple of friends in prison. Michael Santos, my mentor. Andrew Altchuk. We all learned from one another. Andrew got me into running and of course I learned more from Michael than I can talk about in this video. 2 friends in prison. I didn’t want friends in part because many prisoners spoke to staff. In fact when I got to prison I formed a quasi friendship with someone who introduced me to a few guys, we’d walk the track and that 1st week I saw that he was talking to staff and I was like “oh no.” I realized this guy is 3 cubicles away from me and I now have to essentially blow him off as a friend because he spends every afternoon talking basketball with a guard. You don’t talk to staff, at least I didn’t. Some prisoners better associate with staff. I don’t know why, maybe they don’t view themselves as criminals so it’s easier to speak with them.

I didn’t want to be friends with people to begin with and I didn’t want to certainly be friends with guys that spoke to staff. In part because there are informants on the inside. Especially some of your friends. There are prisoners that will curry up to guards, who do it because they want more visitation or additional halfway house time and other reasons. I didn’t have many friends for that reason. You can have as many friends as you like.

Life In Federal Prison- Don’t Talk To Staff

I did not talk to staff and I laid low. They didn’t know my name. I was never bothered by them. I wrote a few cop outs, which is when you put in a request. I did put in a cop out after 4 months to leave the kitchen, which is where I was for the first 4 months at Taft Federal Prison Camp. I put in a request to become an orderly which they approved. I put in a cop out to move bunks which she approved. When I surrendered to Taft Camp many of the new prisoners are at the front of the dorm, and because of my proactive adjustment and not complaining and doing my job, laying low, avoiding the prison hustle … Well, I did a little bit of the hustle. Not getting caught for it, I was too stupid. I did it too quickly. Because of my proactive adjustment I moved further back in the dorm. Which made life easier for me because when you’re at the back of the dorm there are longer term prisoners who are more respectful and courteous and the lights go out a little bit sooner. I did write a couple of cop outs but not like those prisoners who seemed to write them every single day.

I didn’t appreciate some of the pettiness from staff. Again, I’m not complaining. My journey was very easy relative to others. I developed a lot of perspective and tolerance while in prison. I realized the opportunities that I had squandered. I became very introspective while there. Some of the pettiness from staff shook me. For example, if our dorms weren’t clean enough they would remove all of the microwaves from the microwave room so we couldn’t cook. The Warden put up this policy that said you could only use the typewriters for your legal cases. You would be in the library and there’s 10 open typewriters that nobody could use. Apparently he didn’t want to cover the cost of the printing or whatever cost to fix a typewriter, I don’t really know.

Again, some prisoners would become very fixated on the institution making these decisions and it would derail them. Where for me I just looked at like again like this is something that I cannot control. Much like you couldn’t control the commissary shopping. When I shopped for the first time in the commissary I had my long list. There was a long line. It’s nerve wracking that first commissary shopping. There’s something strange about it. I just remember I was so anxious for my first shopping. Had my long list, my ID card and I walked in. I handed them … A prisoner who worked in the commissary, my list and the food came out and you have a bag there and you’re like throwing it in as quickly as you can. It does say, there’s a big sign before you leave the commissary, make sure you have everything, no refunds. I never did that. I wanted to get in. I wanted to get out. Sometimes things were missing, but I never complained. Sometimes a banana looked like it had been rotten for 4 months. It’s all good, I’m not going to complain. Unlike others, who might have or who wanted to return certain things. Do not complain if you don’t like the avocado. It’s all good you’re going to be home soon. I never did any of that.

Life In Federal Prison- Don’t Shop Too Much

Also, don’t shop too much that 1st time. It’s going to look like you’re rich. If you go in and spend your whole limit in that 1st shopping, you’re carrying everything back to your cubicle, be moderate. Be patient. Take your time. It’ll be fine. It can be tough to run out of your limit early. On those months you go to the chow hall a little bit more than you’d like.

Life In Federal Prison- Medical Care

I’m often asked about the medical care in prison. Experience tells me and this is across the board from clients of mine who have been in camps and lows and my personal experience, that despite what the prison system might tell you, the doctors there they lack sympathy and certainly don’t treat you as if you are their patient. They care about keeping costs down and they will purposely misdiagnose you. I don’t know where they went to medical school, or if they have licenses but I assure you they didn’t go to Harvard or Yale.

For those of you who are going to prison you will see that soon enough. Just embrace it. Try to avoid those injuries. I have clients and like I said myself who were misdiagnosed or they didn’t want to properly treat us. I slipped in the kitchen, I developed a hernia, I expressed it to them. They wouldn’t help me. I’ve had many other clients get hernias, knee injuries, back injuries, I had a client a few months ago say, “Justin I followed ever piece of advice you have given me, it’s really emboldened me on this prison term, the one piece of advice I did not take was playing organized sports. In basketball I rolled my knee, I will never be the same. Make sure others know that organized sports are a risk because if you get hurt they will not treat you.”

Just be aware of that. You can complain if you like. I chose not to and I came home and I had a hernia surgery at UCLA. It’s part of the journey. You’re not going to get the medical attention that you need. The dentist, I too wondered where he went to Dental School. He looked at my teeth for about 4 seconds. I asked him a question he said “okay you’re gone, get out, move on.” That was my experience with dentists and doctors in prison. Of course the prison system is going to tell you they treat you wonderfully and your needs are going to be taken care of. It ain’t so. Stay healthy. See the dentist before you go in. Maintain a healthy diet. Avoid the cakes and sugars and cookies they give you in the chow hall. Avoid the ice creams that you can purchase in the commissary both for your fitness but also because if you get a tooth they ain’t gonna fix it and you’ll see a lot of guys in prison walking around toothless. Just be proactive, be careful.

Life In Federal Prison- Be Proactive

Back to being proactive, I’m often asked how well did I sleep in prison. I’m a light sleeper. One piece of advice that I have given my clients since 2008 that has worked is exercising your ass off because it will help you sleep through anything and it did for me. Waking early and running 8,9 or 10 miles or I have a client that cycles for 90 minutes every day. I have a female client in Alderson, West Virginia who walks for 90 minutes every morning. They all say the same thing “by exercising early, hard and often I sleep like a baby that night when the dorm is loud and noisy and lockers are slamming and people are cooking.” The exercise will help you sleep which is integral to living productively.

Living situations on the inside, some prisons like Lompoc have open barracks. Some have pods. At Taft Camp we were in cubicles. I had an upper bunk. Some people with medical conditions and due to age are going to be in a lower bunk. I had an upper bunk and I liked it. It kept me from spending time there during the day. You will find some people in prison will sleep all day, I guess regardless of the bunk. You’ll find some people watching TV all day or gambling all day, exercising all day, complaining all day, working hard all day to come home. By having an upper bunk it kept me from getting up there to rest.

Also, I’m kind of a germ freak, that’s one thing I worried about going to prison, what would the bathrooms look like? They were clean, there were private shower stalls, they were better than I had expected. I was not one of the men who when they would turn off the faucet would use a napkin to turn it off or on. I said this is my world, this is my life. I’m not going to do that. Many men do for fear of germs which I get because you do get sick a lot that first 2 or 3 months as you get acclimated in this big dorm with the air and being around so many men–it’s just part of the experience. So, I didn’t want a lower bunk in part because people can come and sit on it and they could have walked the track and it’s just not a good idea to sit on somebody else’s bunk to begin with.

Life In Federal Prison- Jobs

I’m asked a lot about jobs and the people with whom I worked. While we can’t control certain parts of imprisonment like our bunk and our job, we can control our attitude. There are times I’ve failed. I’ve had clients reach out to me and say “Justin, I can control my environment like you taught me but there are times I work with some people who drive me insane and they’re not people I would associate with.” That’s where on the inside it takes a great deal of discipline. I didn’t do that at times.

As I wrote in Lessons From Prison, there was an experience when I was leaving the chow hall, while finishing my job, I did pots and pans, where I had 2 prisoners arguing about the existence of the Holocaust. I remember … It’s not just because I’m a Jew and totally offended by it. What imbecile won’t acknowledge that the Holocaust actually existed? Here I am, working 3 feet away from someone who I had, not a friendship with but was respectful with, and now I knew until I had served 4 months in the kitchen and I had like I don’t know, 3 months left, that I was going to have to work next to this person who actually spoke with logic, he claimed, about the existence of the Holocaust. That’s when you feel like you’re in prison.

Life In Federal Prison- Calling Home

You feel like your in prison when you call home and they don’t pick up. You feel like your in prison when you run out of phone minutes and the visitation is over and you wish you could just call home and make sure your family is home safe. That’s why you have to save your ph2, 3, or 4 phone minutes for those visitations because there is nothing better than calling home, knowing that the people that visited you are there safe. I was terrible with my 300 phone minutes. There were times that I would visit and I would have to wait until the following month to call home. I knew they got home safely but there was just such value for me in being able to speak with them on the phone.

Life In Federal Prison- Losing A Loved One

I knew some prisoners who lost a loved one in prison. There’s nothing worse than a few times you hear prisoners being called down to camp control. You just feel for them in hearing that a mother or father has passed away. It’s just tragic. If the sentence is so long they won’t let you go to the funeral because it’s a security risk. For all of these reasons, that’s when you feel confined and that’s where life inside of a federal prison can be very difficult. As much as you might prepare or plan it’s not easy. That’s why visitation is not always great in prison. I visited nearly every Friday on the inside but with only 300 phone minutes … There wasn’t email while I was in prison, there is now. Use the CorrLinks or Jpay at Taft … For disclosure, I have clients that say they are on the email system too much. Not because of cost but because it’s distracting what they are trying to accomplish on the inside. So, like anything else you want to be moderate in your tasks in prison whether it’s exercising, reading, writing, TV, sleeping, there’s got to be moderation.

Life In Federal Prison- Fake It Until You Make It

For me, with no email, and just 300 phone minutes a month. I did a lot of snail mail. That’s how I wrote my blogs and book. You’d be surprised to learn that visitation can be bad days because that’s where you get some bad news from home and it’s really contingent on you, the prisoner, and the tone that you have set for that visit. If you roll down to visitation and you’re complaining, and you’re frustrated, and your complaining about life on the inside, it sets the tone for that whole visit.

Now as someone who speaks about ethics, I have all over the country, I’m not one to encourage lying but this is a time you have to lie. You have to lie on days where you call home and you want to cry or complain, you need to say “honey it’s all good. I’m working hard. I’m going to be home soon. This part of the process is easier than the time I spent fighting my case.”

If some day you are in federal prison, and you are calling home from that pay phone and you want to complain or bitch instead perhaps you’ll think of Justin Paperny and say “I’m working hard here. I miss you and the kids. I’m proving worthy of the opportunity. I’m enrolling in all of the education that they’re giving me here. I’m working hard to get additional halfway house time. I’ve met the right people. I love you. I cannot wait to see you on Monday or Friday. I only have 5 full minutes left this month, honey. I love you. I’ll call you back. Talk soon.”

There were days when I’d call home and I’d lie to my mom or to my friends in telling them what life in prison was like. So, I hate to tell you to lie, but lie because if you say it enough in time you might believe it. I did loathe some of the prisoners who would call home and make it harder on their family because it’s hardest on them. I recognized that very early. My clients recognize that very early. While we surrender to prison, and were coddled to a degree by this prison system that could really care less about us and they could care less if we sleep or watch TV all day. There’s no accountability. Our family is working and supporting us and raising the kids.

Life In Federal Prison- Don’t Waste Your Significant Others Money

I didn’t have a lot friends in prison and I certainly wasn’t friends with the gentleman who played cards all day and hustled all day, and watched TV all day and he’d go make that phone call after the 10:30am count cleared and he’d complain to his wife about how hard Taft Camp was. And that if it wasn’t for her, he’d transfer to an easier prison. It doesn’t get easier than Taft. Then he’d close the call by saying, “honey can you send me a few hundred more bucks.” He’d use that money to pay off his gambling debts. I remember thinking, “this has got to be harder on the family. This has got to be tougher.” I never wanted to go down that road.

Okay I want to make clear, I’ve talked about some prisoners who complain but equally there are just as many men on the inside who use all day every day to prepare. Despite circumstances that were much more difficult than mine. As I mentioned in the video I filmed “Why I Went To Prison” I touched on many men taking pleas because the odds of prevailing at trial are low. Many take please despite not being guilty because the idea of such a lengthy prison term if convicted at trial are just too much to bear. I have such admiration for those men because many of them shouldn’t be in prison but they’re preparing all day every day and not succumbing to a negative and hopeless environment. They are preparing despite some of the injustices thrown their way.

Life In Federal Prison- Use Your Time Wisely

It was easier for me because there was no gray in my case. It was black and white. I clearly crossed the line but for some prisoners who chose to spend their afternoons in the library reading, writing, taking college education courses or in the quiet room writing employers to try to line up jobs in the halfway house. It was very inspiring to me and in many ways I tried to mirror their adjustment and learn from them. I want to really stress, that there are ample opportunities in prison to grow that network and to be totally productive because you are going to have a lot of time. Which for me and many of the men at Taft Camp were in the afternoons. Many hours alone prior to that 4pm count to prepare for our future. So, I have a lot of respect for them and I wanted to clarify that so many good men prepared each day despite circumstances that were difficult by any measure.

There’s a lot of online chat rooms that will tell you prison is boring. I’ve written in the past that the highest value for some prisoners is boredom. I suppose it can be boring. If you want to fall in that category of making things happen you’ve got to learn to avoid the boredom that is so pervasive inside of every federal prison. You’ll feel it on holidays where you miss home. The weekends it can be very tough because it lacks the structure of the week. More than ever you’ve got to find a routine that is best suited for you, while recognizing at some point the doors are going to open.

Life In Federal Prison- Find A Win-Win

For me, I tried to find, and I encourage my clients and I encourage you to try to find a win-win inside of a federal prison. A win-win for me might have been teaching. Many men in prison don’t have their GED. I helped many obtain their GED by basic arithmetic and math and English. That was a win for them. The win for me was the sense of perspective and the good feeling that I had knowing that I was contributing and giving back. Rather than complain or bitch about my environment which at times I did do believe me, I’m not totally immune to having lived inside a federal prison. I was able to create that win-win. I understood my environment and I avoided many of the altercations. Indeed, when I would … I worked in the quiet room a lot with Michael Santos, and I would frequently watch the way that new prisoners interacted with others.

Shortly into my term a new prisoner surrendered and the irony in prison is a lot of people don’t do their job and this white collar offender was admonished by a low level drug offender for the way that he was doing his job. The irony was this prisoner, the other prisoner didn’t do his job at all. So, here he is getting on someone about not doing his job well enough, where he didn’t do his job period.

This is where you have a dilemma in prison because there are some inveterate criminals in prison that don’t care if they go to the SHU, if they get transferred, if they go to higher security prison, they got 10 years left. For many of my clients prison is but a blip in their life that should be preparing you for richer experiences upon your release. Had this white collar offender understood that he wouldn’t have snapped back, or argued with this guy and said “you don’t even do your job.” Luckily, it didn’t grow into an altercation but it very easily could have.

Life In Federal Prison- Fight In Federal Prison

Now, if you know my work I don’t prey on vulnerabilities or fear, there is very little violence inside of a camp but I did see some fights, in part over gambling issues primarily. A lot of complaining or some guys that just go on and on about the money they made, the people they knew. The irony is the people that claim they had the most money don’t have 5 bucks to shop in the commissary. So, some of those people can get on your nerves and because of that there is some fights and altercations but primarily it had to do with gambling.

Life In Federal Prison- Read Lessons From Prison

As I said earlier, I could talk for days and days about life inside a federal prison. I encourage you to read Lessons From Prison in part because I write about this metaphorical U that Michael Santos introduced me to. Qcuikly, this is the way that it works. You’re going to surrender to prison and you’re nervous. You’re leaving society, you’re leaving your family and freedom behind. You have all these anxieties about what life is like on the inside.

Then you get there and you begin to settle in. You begin to get accustomed to this world of confinement, to the showers and the toilet and your job and separation and visitation and your exercise routine and the cliques that you form. You begin to get comfortable and acclimated. Then as you work your way down this metaphorical U, you’re going to be at the bottom of this U and that’s when you’re really dialed into your prison term. That is when you know you’ve already moved to the best bunk. If you’ve adjusted well you have the best job. You’re dialed into your exercise routine. You’re dialed into your programming. You should be preparing for the obstacles that await you.

Life In Federal Prison- U At The Bottom

The most comfortable part of your prison routine at the metaphorical part of this U at the bottom. As you begin to reach the end of your term, it doesn’t matter if it’s a year and a day, 5, 10, 15, or 20 years, as you begin to ascend the U, the same anxieties come back. The anxieties about how I’m going to have to pay bills. I’m going to have to pay rent or my mortgage and healthcare. I’m going to have to deal with a probation officer who’s going to supervise me for 2, 3, or 5 years. I have to pay back my criminal restitution. I’ve lost my licenses. How am I going to support my family?

A number of men at the end of their prison terms both drug offenders and white collar, have the same level of anxiety that they had when they surrendered. I saw that from the very beginning, some men turning down the halfway house because they didn’t want to transition to society because they weren’t ready. They had wasted their time on table games and football or soccer and TV and ESPN and they weren’t ready to transition.

Life In Federal Prison- Conclusion

I’ll close this long video with something that impacted me moderation to begin with, don’t exercise for 10 hours a day. Don’t watch TV for 10 hours a day. There is gold in moderation. It’s got to be balanced. That’s why you begin ascending the metaphorical U the day that you surrender to prison. If from the day that you surrender you focus on your family, your routine, on developing new skills, you’ll will not have those anxities as you get closer to your release.

If you can do that you won’t feel that anxiety as you reach the end of that metaphorical U. You won’t be scared to release. You’ll be thrilled to welcome and embrace your family as the doors open up for you and as you transition to or furlough, I should say, to the halfway house.

As I’ve said before, I’m not insane, I’m not glad that I served time in prison but I wanted to make things happen. I wanted to emerge, to opportunities and to a network that would believe in and support me, not because I asked them to but because I had earned it.

Avoid the wrong people in prison. Avoid the hustle. Begin ascending that U. Avoid staff. Don’t complain if you get a bad banana in the commissary. Don’t complain if you got a guy in the chow hall complaining about or questioning the existence of the Holocaust. Don’t complain about the pettiness of staff or informants that might try to create trouble for you. Lay low, live your life and you will emerge differently than the troubling data suggests you will.”

Thank you,
Justin Paperny

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